Connecting to wifi questions

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You might be able to forward multiple ports to the same destination. This would have to be done on the verizon side of the router. So let's say port 443 (https) is open from your office, you could redirect that port to the port 2000 on your linksys. That *should* work if the Fios router allows you to forward both 2000 and 443 to the same destination. I don't see why it wouldn't just never tried it. If you can change the port in the portal and the android app from 2000 to something else, you could also just switch to that port instead of 2000.

To address your previous post, the wifi utiliity is going to give you the address that the wifi module receives from the linksys. Let's say 10.192.138.7. On the linksys you will have an IP as your gateway 10.192.138.7 for the "LAN". On the Fios side of the linksys it will have it's "WAN" address of 192.168.1.16. You would need to forward port 2000 on the FIOS router to the WAN address of the Linksys router (192.168.1.16) port 2000 which would then by the linksys get forwarded to the wifi address of the reefangel.

I know it's tricky, it sounds like you have it working though now. But hopefully my explanation helps to clarify it for you.
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Just talked to one of the IT guys..says we don't block anything "going out" but everything "coming in". Is the app technically "going out" in terms of asking for information?

Thanks for the explanation, it does make sense. All is working good. Obviously not a huge deal if the app doesn't work at work since I am in front of a computer anyways and can use the portal or the client (I think for the client but haven't tried).
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The app queries the RA which is technically an outgoing connection so it sounds like it should not be blocked. Does the android app work at work if your not on their wifi?
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Yes, works on cellular. Just out of curiosity, I will note whether it works on my wifi at home..just to rule out a few things, I guess.
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Wifi at home and wifi at work are going to be completely different. Also when your on home wifi you will have to deal with home/away profiles...thinking on that is it possible the android app thinks its on wifi at home and may be trying to hit your internal address...
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I see in the settings of the app that there is a place to put "away host". So far, only the "home host" is filled in. Not sure what I would put into the "away host". I put in the same ip as the home host w/ the same error.
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For home host you should be putting in the IP that you have from the linksys. For the away host it should be the WAN ip on the Verizon FIOS router. If your phone app is working under Cellular then that's the IP you would use for the away setting. This IP can also work at home on your wifi but maybe slower. It does sound like the work IP is blocking it though.
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The only way the app will work over cellular is if the home host is the verizon WAN. It also does works if I put the WAN into the away host as you've suggested. However, the app does not work over cellular if I put the linksys IP in the home host as you suggested. It almost seems like the linksys ip is a through away.
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Your linksys ip should be the home profile ip and the verizon should be the away profile ip.
The linksys ip address only exist within your wifi network.
So, when you are home, connected to your wifi net, you may change to home profile and when away, connected in someone else wifi net or over 3G, you must switch to away profile.
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I just tried that, nothing. Here is the scenario,

The app only works when the home and the away host are the verizon WAN, and only when in home profile. it will not work in the away profile. If i put my linksys ip into the home host and keep my wan in the away host, i will not be able to connect over wifi (at the office) or cellular, for both away or home profile.

so it looks i can only connect in the home profile and w/ only the wan address..via cellular while away from my home network. i get nothing using my work wifi. will try my home network when i get home.
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The linksys ip should ONLY work hwen in the home profile and when on the wifi at home.

The verizon WAN address should be in the away profile and should work when on Cellular.

For now I would say your RA is blocked by your office....
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yeap. looks like your work is blocking traffic then.
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Ok, I get the office situation.

But the app still doesn't connect in away profile even though the away host is my wan (while the home host is my linksys). it only connects when my home host is my wan and in home profile (doesn't matter the away host for this scenario). that's the strange thing.
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Are you sure you are changing the profile?
You must click the home and choose away in the drop down menu. It's on the top left corner right beside the blue logo.
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Yup. I'm sure. Just tried it again. Went into away profile and made sure my wan ip is correct and it gave error 15.

but back to home profile w/ my wan ip and it works..very weird.

edit..all over cellular.
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So...

now at home with wifi, when I change my home port to the linksys ip and use home profile, it works. BUT...it also works if my home port is the fios wan, using the home profile. So both work. What we also know now is that if i am using cellular, i can only use the fios wan but it HAS to be as the home port.

very strange. ultimately, it's not a huge deal as i have access whichever way. something is just funky.....

thanks everyone for your help.
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spoke too soon...i logged in via the portal and it looks like i have a new ip address (wan). the last 2 digits are slightly different. this only happened after i logged into the portal. is this RA portal doing something or is this verizon changing the ip?

i then changed the apps ip to the new one and works like before....thoughts?
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The portal updates the ip when it changes on you. Maybe in resetting the router at some point it received a new ip address. The wan ip works for me also when I'm on my wifi. Some do some don't your lucky. For changing ip addresses most of us and even apex users setup dynamic dns with someone like dyndns.com or no-ip.org
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Ah..I have seen people talk about that. no-ip.org has a free option. Obviously, free is good. Will that due for my purposes? Will the fact that the hostname expiring every 30days be an issue? Thanks.
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Not sure how no-ip does it. But with dyndns you had to log in once a month to refresh your ip to keep it active. I ended up paying :)

Once you get that resolved also take a look at www.reeftronics.net :)
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Thanks, Lee.

Any opinions that you've heard of between dyndns vs no-ip? no-ip os 19.95/yr vs $25/year for dyndns (assuming it's the remote access option, am i correct w/ that?). that's a good percentage difference, plus I am cheap...haha.
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found this:

http://freedns.afraid.org/

might give it a shot. I found an old post by binder talking about it.
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I have no real opinion. I never tried no-ip. I've been using dyndns for >10 years with no issues.
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Ok, decided to try freedns.afraid.org. Setup was super simple and my android app connects w/ the new domain on both home and away profiles. Thanks Lee and Roberto for your help. Now on to other issues....:)
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One issue at a time...just don't think it ever ends :) its as much an addiction as the coral lol
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howaboutme wrote:Thanks, Lee.

Any opinions that you've heard of between dyndns vs no-ip? no-ip os 19.95/yr vs $25/year for dyndns (assuming it's the remote access option, am i correct w/ that?). that's a good percentage difference, plus I am cheap...haha.
i'm using no-ip currently because of dyndns changing their services and moving towards a pay service. the no-ip service requires you to login once a month to "update" your hosts or else they will remove your hosts.
like you, i am "cheap" when it comes to this. i pay for other domains and hostings and dns and i don't want to pay for "one more thing".

the only drawback that i noticed with the freedns.afraid.org is that they do a community usage of domain names. it's not a bad idea if you don't mind that others could potentially use your domain name. i know you can configure things to make it harder to do that or to restrict others from doing that. overall though, it did look like a decent service (and free). :)

keep us posted on how it works out for you or if you encounter any problems. i doubt that you would but just mentioning it anyways.
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Hey Curt! Thanks for responding. First, thanks for a great app!

I went w/ afraid.org because (besides free) I like the community like organization. It reminds me of open source projects like this, b2evo, gallery2, etc that I have played with. I don't really mind sharing the domain. I do own a bunch of domains and can add it to afraid if I am a paid member to keep it private. I will try to see how this goes and hope that the domain name owner doesn't do anything crazy. After only a day, it works fine. Only time will tell.

What every happened to this thread?
http://forum.reefangel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3503

Were you trying to see if there was support in adding either domain into afraig.org for us to use?
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howaboutme wrote:Hey Curt! Thanks for responding. First, thanks for a great app!

I went w/ afraid.org because (besides free) I like the community like organization. It reminds me of open source projects like this, b2evo, gallery2, etc that I have played with. I don't really mind sharing the domain. I do own a bunch of domains and can add it to afraid if I am a paid member to keep it private. I will try to see how this goes and hope that the domain name owner doesn't do anything crazy. After only a day, it works fine. Only time will tell.

What every happened to this thread?
http://forum.reefangel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3503

Were you trying to see if there was support in adding either domain into afraig.org for us to use?
i was just trying to come up with ideas for custom urls through ra. nothing ever came of it because of a lack of real expressed interest and other things.

Sent from my Nexus 7
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