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Wouldn't we need the whole kit?

http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route= ... VcolFeQO9I

Well, I'm guessing you would need everything but the IO expansion shield. In place of that you would need a board for the 2nd WPN to plug into the pins on the RA, yes? or is there a way to plug that in under the hood? If we plug into the pins that means we still have to unlug the wifi to program.

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Ok, after the failed attempt to use the xbee, I decided to revisit my first choice of upload without wires.
My first attempt a while ago was unsuccessful and the module sat in the shelf for quite a while.
So, I decided to put another effort in tying to find out why I failed last time and this is what I got it this time:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3d2EjXSqk[/youtube]
This is the first step into getting it this completed.
The next step is trying to integrate the wifi as well as the bluetooth radio.
Right now, the code fails to upload if the wifi is connect too, so I'll have to come up with a way to isolate the wifi when we are uploading.
More to come :ugeek:
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Sweet. So we'll be able to connect via bluetooth :) Then maybe I can go back to developing on my Mac
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That's awesome! Even through my RA is less that 10' away from my computer I'll still pick one of these modules up when they become available. That would be awesome being able to upload a small change without stringing out the USB cable and disconnecting the wifi.

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Ok, so I figured out the way to coexist both modules and isolate the channels, so they don't get each others' transmissions.
My proto board looks ugly with lots of wires, but it does the job :)
Check it out:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q59IwQ0o4BY[/youtube]
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Great success! Congrats! This will be a great expansion for RA users
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This is awesome! Pricing and availability estimates?

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So are they ready yet???

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Would the BT work with the RA client
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Yes :)
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This is awesome - congrats man!

To be honest when i first recieved my RA i thought the wifi module alone could do this :P
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Very nice :)
I wish we could see the spark cloud working to see if we can add out libraries :(
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That's pretty slick.
I've been thinking about picking up an arm dev board of some kind; had been waiting for the Leaf Labs "Oak", which seems on hold now, but then thinking about the Leaf Labs "Maple", but maybe I'll look into this Spark Cloud board now... :-)
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Very interesting. Could we (as RA) figure out how to do a firmware update type thing? Sending a file over the wifi connection , store on SD (RA side) decomplie and program like a flash? Not sure if this method would be better versus trying to upload small bits of data over and over via wifi??? Isnt this where our issue lays? If an SD (or other storage) could receive the flash file then upload we wouldn't be dealing with the small bits of data right?

I could be way off??? I don't have the components to mess with this at the moment :(
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Hey Roberto have you had any time to play with this

Also can you cobble a drawing together that shows the wifi and bt connected

I have just recived a new bt module and would love to play with this..

Not so much the wireless programing but the xfer aspect of it BT would be a great way to connect fo ra control while in the house.. VS having to pull the laptop out each time i want to check on things

http://dx.com/p/jy-mcu-arduino-bluetoot ... ule-104299

is the module i picked up
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I've had problems using those cheap BT adapters for programming, but it worked fine for data xfer.
Simply connect Tx/Rx from RA to TX/RX of the BT module. Simple as that :)
Just make sure you connect over 57600 baud.
I've got the first prototype done yesterday and installed on my RA for remote programming. It worked out pretty nice :)
I just need to make one small revision and produce a new prototype to finalize the pcb design.
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Cool.. Ya cheap is not always a good thing as we have talked about before.. i will try it later tonigh and see if i can get my data back from it...

What BT did you use for testing
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Looks the same. I think there is a 5 and a 6 version and I tried both of them. Could only get data.
It would freeze when I tried using it for programming.
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Ya they have a 3-10 versions they all look pretty close to each other.. Ok any who.. i will keep playing thats what it is all about anyways...

I may be one of the few people that own a ra that has not used it to control my tank im having way too much fun on the programing and just the understanding of how it works,,,

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paulvisco wrote: I may be one of the few people that own a ra that has not used it to control my tank im having way too much fun on the programing and just the understanding of how it works,,,

Total Love the RA
i think i spent about 1-2 years before I hooked it up to my tank. in fact, i got a second controller/setup to use on my tank and the original controller is used for testing. :-) not that I didn't want to use it on my tank but I kept programming and updating the libraries :-)
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I actually have my DIY controller that i modeled after the RA it cost 3 times as much in the end and only does about 1/2 of what the RA does but i had so much fun building it.. Actually my Son owns a reef supply shop and has a number of the RA's in the shop. and it has been my goal to get them all on a wired or wireless network so that all the tanks can be monitored from one location.. be it BT or ethernet Just trying to stay away from wifi.
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