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JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:40 pm
by treetopflyn
Anyone running one of these with their RA yet? Is it possible to control it?

http://www.fish-street.com/jebo_wp-40_13000l_wave_maker

JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:35 pm
by lnevo
Doubtful other than off/on. I don't see any means to control it unless I'm missing something...

JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:34 pm
by treetopflyn
I think it might be because the light sensor slows the pump down at night.

JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:44 pm
by lnevo
Yeah well you can control your lights and watch your pumps spin down :)

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:43 pm
by jcm2m9
I believe we can control it, with some modifications per some threads I have read.

It is a dc pump that is controlled by, I believe an internal PWM. There is a big thread on RC about them. Someone is trying to hack a stand alone controller for it.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:26 pm
by lnevo
Cool. If there's a way to tap into the PWM interface, then sure. You could use the same functions we have out there for Tunze, but they'd be using PWM ports instead of Analog.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:34 pm
by Amos Poh
Will be cool to see this controlled by RA :)

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:58 pm
by rimai
Seedlessone sent me this:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... 44&page=12
Looks like this can be modded to be controlled with PWM signals :)

JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:09 pm
by lnevo
Cool

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:12 pm
by DrewPalmer04
Simon is from my old neck of the woods. He will update that forum with progress/reliability. I'm sure of it. I'm impressed with these power heads.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:08 pm
by treetopflyn
rimai wrote:Seedlessone sent me this:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... 44&page=12
Looks like this can be modded to be controlled with PWM signals :)
Awesome!! What would be needed besides the controller?

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:12 pm
by rimai
I don't know.
You need to check with the guy that hacked it.

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Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:44 pm
by rimai
Someone requested Vortech modes to be used for this pump or controllable Tunzes.
I went ahead and created ReefCrest to start.

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byte ReefCrestMode(byte s)
{
  static unsigned long lastmillis=millis();
  static int newspeed=s;
  if ((millis()-lastmillis) > 5000)
  {
    int delta;
    delta=random(20);
    if (delta<10) newspeed--; else newspeed++;
    newspeed=constrain(newspeed,s-20,s+20);
    newspeed=constrain(newspeed,0,100);
    lastmillis=millis();
  }  
  return newspeed;
}
Place it at the very end of your code.
To use the function, you can use like this:

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  ReefAngel.PWM.SetDaylight( ReefCrestMode(80) );

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:49 pm
by Seedlessone
Awesome awesome awesome!! Thanks for the code Roberto.

I can't wait to get my pump. It should be here next week.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:52 pm
by Seedlessone
treetopflyn wrote:
rimai wrote:Seedlessone sent me this:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... 44&page=12
Looks like this can be modded to be controlled with PWM signals :)
Awesome!! What would be needed besides the controller?
Looks like the VA wire on the controller board can go straight to pwm 5v on the ra. will know once I get my pump.

Also getting a battery backup on these will be a breeze. Tunze backp will work.

These pumps are going to fill a huge gap if they hold up.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:57 pm
by Piper
Post lots pics and let me know how it works for you after you get it. I ordered one yesterday to try it out :)

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:44 am
by lnevo
rimai wrote:Someone requested Vortech modes to be used for this pump or controllable Tunzes.
I went ahead and created ReefCrest to start.

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byte ReefCrestMode(byte s)
{
  static unsigned long lastmillis=millis();
  static int newspeed=s;
  if ((millis()-lastmillis) > 5000)
  {
    int delta;
    delta=random(20);
    if (delta<10) newspeed--; else newspeed++;
    newspeed=constrain(newspeed,s-20,s+20);
    newspeed=constrain(newspeed,0,100);
    lastmillis=millis();
  }  
  return newspeed;
}
Place it at the very end of your code.
To use the function, you can use like this:

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  ReefAngel.PWM.SetDaylight( ReefCrestMode(80) );
This is awesome... Are you going to write any other modes? I can use this with the rf custom code to do my tidal switch...

SetMode(Custom, ReefCrestMode(80), 0);
SetMode(Custom, ReefCrestMode(60), 1);

And then switch it...

SetMode(Custom, ReefCrestMode(60), 0);
SetMode(Custom, ReefCrestMode(80), 1)

Or add a parabola into the the art to ReefCrestMode! Gears are spinning...

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:31 pm
by treetopflyn
Awesome!! Thank you Roberto. Can't wait for my pump to get here.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:39 pm
by dcartier
I have been following the thread on RC, but no one with a pump so far has the electronics background to actually determine what the control signal is. If one of you guys get a pump, please put a scope on the VA line so we can see what it is actually using. At this point it could be 0-10V, 5V PWM, 10V PWM or 24V PWM.

The WP25 is supposed to be out at the end of the month and I am holding off for 2 of them.

Dennis

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:02 pm
by rimai
I'd love to see the scope screenshot too :)

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:02 am
by dcartier
I am waiting for confirmation, but based on info from RC users for the pin that the VA line is connected to, it looks like a plain old 5V PWM signal. The 20 pin variants have PWM0 output on the pin this line is coming from and the chips are all 3V - 5.5V parts. I am checking for the part number on the regulator to make sure that this is 5V and not 3.3V.

So if it is a 5V PWM, this should be easily interfaced and controlled by the RA.

Dennis

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:32 am
by iiluisii
Has any body Figure out if they are 5 volts or if they will work cause I have two already that im wanting to hook up to the reef angel.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:34 am
by Piper
Roberto - Do you have a scope or access to a scope? I can bring you the pump when it shows if you can get it to a scope.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:36 am
by rimai
Yes, I have a scope. Bring it to the Frag Swap :)
We may be able to check it out.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:45 am
by Piper
Will do. Not sure if it will be here by then though. If it goes like everyone else is saying I should have it on Friday just in time for the swap. If not, I'll find a way to get it over to you.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:01 pm
by iiluisii
I got a friend that is gonna put one on the scope today I will let you guys know

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:02 pm
by rimai
Awesome!!! :)

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:52 pm
by dcartier
That is great news. I have been trying to help the guys on RC do the investigative work remotely but with limited success so far.

Dennis

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:18 pm
by Piper
My pump was out for delivery today but nobody was home to sign for it. I'll grab it tomorrow or Thursday and bring it with me on Saturday.

Re: JEBO WP-40

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:16 pm
by Piper
Picked up my pump today :) Man, this thing moves some water! On W1 I can get a wave going and push water out of the tank without hesitation.

Roberto - I'll bring it with me on Saturday. You do what you want/need to do with it and I'll grab it at one of the next meetings. I'll probably end up selling this one once you're done with it (it's too big for my 65) and grab two of the smaller WP25s if and when they come out.

~Charlie