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Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:17 pm
by Sacohen
That's basically what I wanted to know or if they made any changes that would make the mod not work.
We know it works on the D120 and the D2040. We're just guessing it should work on the 2014 model.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:58 pm
by lnevo
You're kind of on you're own regardless since I've only seen 4-6 people posting about doing the same hack.. Maybe it's a bit more for people who are quiet. but yeah it's a shot in the dark. I'd say a good shot though. If you want to be 100% sure then go with the RR fixture from the start. Any other light is still going to be much more $$$. And if you go the ebay route, it's not like you invested that much and you still have a pair of good lights. I know it's a tough call, I struggled with it for a long time and finally dropped the dough when the price was at $120 per fixture. Now they're less than $80, I'd almost say no brainer, but this hobby eats every penny it can :)

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:11 pm
by Sacohen
You're doing it with the D2040, aren't you?

Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:32 pm
by lnevo
Yea, I'm pretty sure that Alan's initial attempt was on a D120

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:38 pm
by Sacohen
I think they were too.
Got some thinking to do.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:20 pm
by paperdesk
I ordered the analog version of the RA specifically so that I could control the d120's. Then, lo and behold, when I open up the d120 it says PWM instead of VDIM. Does this mean that my RA won't dim it? I went ahead and hooked it up and the lights come on but they do not dim. Does this mean I have to get the dimming expansion to make it work? I shorted pins 1 and 2 and connected the dimming leads to pins 3 and 4.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:26 am
by lnevo
When did you get your RA, there may be jumpers in the relay box to change it to PWM

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:23 pm
by paperdesk
I bought it in August 2014!

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:45 am
by lnevo
Cool. Roberto should be able to confirm.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:08 am
by paperdesk
I am also controlling a jabeo pump but if I remember right it is pwm anyway, so switching over to pwm should be fine, if it is possible!

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:28 am
by Sacohen
Jebao is Analog or PWM.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:20 pm
by paperdesk
Ok, that's a plus, just waiting to see if Roberto will chime in . . .

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:10 am
by rimai
Yeap. that box should have it.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:43 am
by paperdesk
Thanks! I'll try that tonight!

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:22 pm
by paperdesk
Is there a diagram that shows what to jumper?

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:15 am
by paperdesk
I found the eagle files, so all I need to know are what pins to jumper to change form analog
to pwm.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:17 am
by rimai
If you open the relay box, you will see the jumpers. It's mislabelled though.
It will show that you Analog/PWM when its in fact the reverse. It should read PWM/Analog.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:54 am
by paperdesk
oK, thanks! i'll check it out. I thought the jumpers were in the head unit and I didn't make sense of any of the labels in there!

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:50 pm
by paperdesk
All is working well. They even dim down to about 6%. Then they go almost off but still on just enough to see if looking at them directly but not enough to light anything. I wasn't sure if this was bad for the drivers. Any thoughts? On a whole I'm very happy and surprised they dim so low!

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:52 pm
by paperdesk
clarification, even when dimmed to 0% they still remain on as described above. I have a wall timer shut off power since I wasn't sure if that was OK.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:58 pm
by lnevo
That's correct. I didn't test at 6% but definitely noticable par difference between 5 and 10%. I believe visually you can see a change at 7% or so, so yeah.. very cool :D

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:24 am
by Sacohen
I had the same problem with my moonlights and Roberto gave me this code.

Change it to your channel and the times you want it on and off.

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 if ( hour()>=13 && hour()<21 )
  ReefAngel.PWM.SetChannel( 5, 0 );
  else
  ReefAngel.PWM.SetChannel( 5, PWMSlope(21,0,13,0,0,MoonPhase() ,60,0) );

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:57 pm
by paperdesk
Thank you very much Steve, I'll try that code.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:43 pm
by paperdesk
Hmm, code didn't work for me. I must have done something wrong. I'll discuss the details in a separate thread.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:15 pm
by AlanM
Are you saying that the new D120's have PWM dimming now instead of analog pots?

paperdesk, where did you get those PWM d120s?

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:29 pm
by paperdesk
I got them off eBay in May. Send me a pm and I can let you know the seller.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:51 pm
by Sacohen
I finally had a chance to open the Evergrow Dimmable Full Spectrum D2120 that I got off E- Bay.
I think it looks like the pots that lnevo has on his lights.

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What do you guys think?

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:45 pm
by lnevo
Yup, i disconnected the jack and shoved wires into the jack and did all the wiring without cutting anything.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:11 am
by AlanM
Sacohen wrote:I finally had a chance to open the Evergrow Dimmable Full Spectrum D2120 that I got off E- Bay.
I think it looks like the pots that lnevo has on his lights.

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What do you guys think?
That's exactly what mine looked like. That pot is a high value one and the little surface mount resistors do the job of adding a little bit of taper to the knob action so that it works almost like an audio taper potentiometer and gives you a more "linear" feel to the dimming where it's less sensitive at the bottom of the range where small changes in light level are very visible and more sensitive at the top, where a change of 10% or so might not even be visible to you.

Some evergrows just have a 10k pot and nothing else on the little board.

Re: Evergrow/Reefbreeders LED 0-10v expansion dimming

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:24 am
by Sacohen
So obviously the VDIN+ and - are for the RA dimming Module.
Are pins 1 &2 the ones you short out?

Lee said he disconnected the jack and shoved wires into the jack.

You would shove the wires into the plug that has the 4 black wires on mine or would they get pushed into the socket that the plug goes in.

Also I was thinking of just shoving the wires in to the backside of the plug and leaving everything connected, would that work?

I was meaning to read through the thread on WAMAS again and I'm sure the answer is in there, but I haven't gotten to it yet.