JEBO WP-40

[rimai]

Roberto - Is the code on GitHub already? Do you have a rough idea when it will be officially pushed out to the compiler?

Thanks!

~Charlie

Not yet.

[jtomasi]

Once you guys code more vortech like modes for this pump, I'll probably convert to a RA.

I have them already
I just didn't tell anyone...lol
I'll use the same logic I used to code the RF module
So, we'll have all vortech modes plus the sine waves created by discocarp
http://forum.reefangel.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2386

Ive purchased the WP40 and the harness is preordered, along with the PWM module. I glanced at the reef crest code Lee posted.
My questions is will I have a way to ENSURE that the pump DOES NOT reach maximum power? I get the impression that it would blow my tank across the room.
Also, and Im sure this is possible. Will we have "vortech" like modes to select on the controller or only in programming?
Will it also be coded to integrate with the "storm on command"?
Ill be tagging along on this one for sure. I finally got my 4 pwm drivers and 2 72in heatsinks for my future light fixture...NOW Ive got to get a 6ft tank to go with it

This is from another thread, but should answer your question.
Th range in that code is +/- 20 so if you set the speed at 55, you'll have a range of 75-35. If you want to increase the range to 25 which would give you 30-80, you'll need to change the s-20,s+20 line to 25's

[rimai]

The updated function allows you to set the speed and the offset:
http://forum.reefangel.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2844

[Nuno Dinis]

Hi Guys,

It's done, just to share something...
Using the LPF it's not necessary, i've used one with 1k resistor and 4.7KuF and the max output was 3.8V, connecting directly from the PWM i got 5V in max power.

Still working on modes, to improve them.
All the best.

[jtomasi]

What does this mean for the average user that doesn't know much about electricity

[Nuno Dinis]

Few posts back we were discussing that you would need a low pass filter to plug the signal to the pump(to convert the output signal from digital to analog).
A low pass filter is build with a resistor and a capacitor.

I'm saying that when using a low pass filter the max output that i was able to get were 3.8V, and the goal is 5V.
without it (plugging directly from the PWM Pin of the arduino), i could get 5V wich is the goal.

BTW, i dont know nothing of electronics, but my controller broke down, so i had to get something else and learn about them...

[Amos Poh]

So what would the recommended dimming type be? I know you said either would work...but which would work out of the box?

Natively the pump uses 0-5VDC analog signal, but the harness that will be available will accept both 0-10VDC PWM and 0-10VDC analog and will convert to 0-5VDC analog to control the pumps.
In other words, everyone will be able to use it

in other words all i need is to purchase the cable Roberto come out with and i will be able to control the WP40?
Note: i have a PWM signal Relay box.

[rimai]

Yes. All you need is the Jebao cable

[andyrm66]

Is it true this will work with the apex? Is anything else needed? Does it have the RJ45 on the end to plug into the Apex V1/v2 - V3/V4 port?

People on RC are reporting it will work with both the Apex and RA.

Just curious if I just need the new cable or also need to run a PWM controller in-between or anything like that., thanks.

[bhazard]

Is it true this will work with the apex? Is anything else needed? Does it have the RJ45 on the end to plug into the Apex V1/v2 - V3/V4 port?

People on RC are reporting it will work with both the Apex and RA.

Just curious if I just need the new cable or also need to run a PWM controller in-between or anything like that., thanks.

It's kind of like going to the Neptune forums and asking if Reef Angel's connector will work. The best answer will be "buy a reef angel".

You will need to modify the RA harness, and then create your own cable or use an apex vdm cable. Its not too difficult, but since RC banned me, I prefer to keep that information to myself, or shared to other forums.

Those trying it on a Reefkeeper with the APC module will probably have to modify it as well.

[lnevo]

I like this answer...

The best answer will be "buy a reef angel".

It makes the most sense

[andyrm66]

Is it true this will work with the apex? Is anything else needed? Does it have the RJ45 on the end to plug into the Apex V1/v2 - V3/V4 port?

People on RC are reporting it will work with both the Apex and RA.

Just curious if I just need the new cable or also need to run a PWM controller in-between or anything like that., thanks.

It's kind of like going to the Neptune forums and asking if Reef Angel's connector will work. The best answer will be "buy a reef angel".

You will need to modify the RA harness, and then create your own cable or use an apex vdm cable. Its not too difficult, but since RC banned me, I prefer to keep that information to myself, or shared to other forums.

Those trying it on a Reefkeeper with the APC module will probably have to modify it as well.

Sorry to infringe. I wish I could buy an RA, but bought my Apex before the RA was a viable option. I didn't ban you from RC, that whole deal sucks, nor do I know what happened.

So much for helping a fellow reefer out, even if they don't belong to the elite ReefAngel Owners Club. If this is the general attitude of RA owners - have fun.

[lnevo]

If you read the reply you quoted, the question was answered. It would require modification but it could work.

My reply was a light hearted joke...

[lnevo]

And the part that you did not put in bold said that he would (and did) share in other forums...

[lnevo]

And FYI, this is the part you need...

You will need to modify the RA harness, and then create your own cable or use an apex vdm cable.

So basically, RA has done all the work to create the harness, you just need to splice it into a plug to connect to the VDM.

[lnevo]

So much for helping a fellow reefer out, even if they don't belong to the elite ReefAngel Owners Club. If this is the general attitude of RA owners - have fun.

Sorry for all the multiple replies... this just disturbs me when we have a very helpful forum and active RA and NON-RA users. Hope my last few posts have been able to help your situation.

[Piper]

Sorry to infringe. I wish I could buy an RA, but bought my Apex before the RA was a viable option. I didn't ban you from RC, that whole deal sucks, nor do I know what happened.

So much for helping a fellow reefer out, even if they don't belong to the elite ReefAngel Owners Club. If this is the general attitude of RA owners - have fun.

He's probably just a little upset over what happened still. I'm not really sure what happened over there that got him banned either to be honest with you.

You'll find that, in general, people here will try to help you out to a certain extent even if you're using a different product. The RA cable should work fine but, as already mentioned, you will need to modify it to plug into your controller. That should be a fairly simple task. As far as coding it goes, you will need to go to to Apex for support there. I'm not familiar with their controller and not sure how you would code it.

~Charlie

[dbmet]

Found this while doing some searching.
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/gen ... -40-a.html


Looks like you will need to modify the reef angel cable to interface
With the apex cable. As for programming I can't help there.

[rimai]

[quote="andyrm66]Sorry to infringe. I wish I could buy an RA, but bought my Apex before the RA was a viable option. I didn't ban you from RC, that whole deal sucks, nor do I know what happened.

So much for helping a fellow reefer out, even if they don't belong to the elite ReefAngel Owners Club. If this is the general attitude of RA owners - have fun.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure he is an APEX user
I don't think he owns a RA controller...lol
The reason I can't say for sure that it works on APEX is because I don't own one, so I can't test it.
But in theory, it should work on any controller provided that you cut the connector and place your own instead.

[andyrm66]

I can handle the programming. I was just interested in what needed to be done to the cable, as some RA users also have Apex units - bhazard.

I did not see exactly what the RA cable does, there was some mention of it using 0-5volt, or maybe a da converter. How does the RA cable replace using a 0-10v 12-24v PWM module. If it is just replacing the Ra connector end of the cable with an RJ45 with proper wire placement, that's all the needed to be said. Not "buy an RA"

[lnevo]

Andy,

I'm the only one that said to "buy an RA" and I said after it was meant as a joke.

And bhazard's reference was an analogy on asking your question here, probably meaning that APEX users would know more about the situation than we would..

This is an open and inclusive forum, with people who work very hard to help others, so please don't get the wrong impression.

[andyrm66]

hmm, the Apex forum doesn't have a user building a cable, nor posting about using WB40's with an Apex. Both of which bhazard has quite extensive knowledge and understanding of. Saying "I was banned from RC, so I just wont share or Ill share elsewhere" has nothing to do with this forum. Its a little ridiculous. Rather than just providing the info needed to help another reefer out

Ill just order up a 0-10volt 12-24 volt PWM and do it that way.

Thanks.

[bhazard]

hmm, the Apex forum doesn't have a user building a cable, nor posting about using WB40's with an Apex. Both of which bhazard has quite extensive knowledge and understanding of. Saying "I was banned from RC, so I just wont share or Ill share elsewhere" has nothing to do with this forum. Its a little ridiculous. Rather than just providing the info needed to help another reefer out

Ill just order up a 0-10volt 12-24 volt PWM and do it that way.

Thanks.

It actually does have everything to do with this forum. This is a reef angel forum. Why would I want to take business away from Reef Angel and provide it to a competitor by posting that info here? It is not the place to do so.

[andyrm66]

You wouldn't be taking business away from RA by helping people that already own Apex units. You would simply be helping fellow reef enthusiasts out and bolster sales for RA as they are the only ones offering a cable for these pumps. Once again, elite RA only attitude. See how much business you BRING to RA with that stellar attitude.

[bhazard]

You wouldn't be taking business away from RA by helping people that already own Apex units. You would simply be helping fellow reef enthusiasts out and bolster sales for RA as they are the only ones offering a cable for these pumps. Once again, elite RA only attitude. See how much business you BRING to RA with that stellar attitude.

I have nothing to do with Reef Angel. It's simple common courtesy, which you lack. I would have posted all the info elsewhere, but you can now figure it out on your own.

[lnevo]

Anyway, let's get on with the topic of discussing the WP-40. Thanks

[topjimmy]

So with all the cool settings, will there be a way to change them via the portal/apps? I can't imagine uploading the sketch just to try out a new wave pattern.

[Piper]

Not via the portal at this time but you can do it with any of the apps that allow you to change internal memory. You would need to set up your code to use internal memory (set up memory locations for wave pattern, params, etc.) and use the app to change the values in internal memory when you want to switch.

[lnevo]

You could leverage the memory locations used by the rf module for the vortechs and use the dropdown on the portal

[topjimmy]

Good idea,

Now I plan on using Drew's Ethernet solution as the pwm to control the pump. I have to figure that part out yet.