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Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:41 pm
by camshaft
I am setting up my new 90 reef. I am interested in the ra and have two questions. The fist question is do I have to purchase the wifi module to control the ra from my phone if the ra is plugged directly into my n-class wireless router? The second question is can the ra run multiple aquariums in the house with obvious expansion modules? Thanks.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:55 pm
by lnevo
You would need a USB connection to a PC / laptop to control it remotely through the web portal.. otherwise you will need the wifi module, or hack an ethernet module based on recent work...

As far as controlling multiple aquariums it all depends on proximity. I believe ~30ft USB cables have been tested to work ok. That and a 15pin SVGA cable would be your limitations to have a relay box seperate from the head unit. I'm not sure of the distance limitations on other probes like the ph, or temperature probe...

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:16 pm
by camshaft
So as far as I understand you, if I use the included serial ttl connector that comes with the ra that has the usb jack on the other side. If I connect that to a usb extension and then into the back of my computer that is always on and plugged into my netgear router, then that will take the place of having to buy the wireless module?

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:58 pm
by rossbryant1956
no, unless you plan on VPN'ing thru your router to your PC and thus view the RA it won't work. You are also giving up a lot of extra functionality and tools available via the wifi unit. We might have Ethernet at some point but I'd say that is still a ways out before it hits mainstream code.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:55 pm
by DrewPalmer04
Follow my thread on Ethernet arduino. It's already possible and the hard wired connection is 100% stable. This would give you total control of your RA just as the wifi would.

Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:57 pm
by lnevo
The pc client can post updates to the portal i believe. So you could view that data remotely.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:18 pm
by camshaft
So there are two conflicting ideas. What is the true please?

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:03 am
by DrewPalmer04
The client does sent data to the portal but offers no control from your phone. The client allows you to "see" your specs on the portal but doesn't allow control unless you control it through a pc, not a phone.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:13 am
by camshaft
So, if I'm away I can see but not control. If I'm home I can control through phone?

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:32 am
by DrewPalmer04
Nope. No control through phone at all, ever without Ethernet or wifi module.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:41 am
by camshaft
And your ethernet module costs pretty near what a wifi module does so there isnt much of an advatage. With the wifi module, or your ethernet module, the phone or tablet can control everthing from anywhere then I assume? Im just trying to decide between ra and apex. When you start to add the things to ra to make it work remotely and have the same amount of dimming outputs as apex vdm, it starts to be counter productive in price it seems to me.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:42 am
by camshaft
And your ethernet module costs pretty near what a wifi module does so there isnt much of an advatage. With the wifi module, or your ethernet module, the phone or tablet can control everthing from anywhere then I assume? Im just trying to decide between ra and apex. When you start to add the things to ra to make it work remotely and have the same amount of dimming outputs as apex vdm, it starts to be counter productive in price it seems to me.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:12 am
by DrewPalmer04
Except for the Idea of endless possibilities with open source programming.

Re: Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:10 am
by camshaft
DrewPalmer04

pm sent

Is the wifi module needed

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:23 pm
by lnevo
Even with the ra+ with the wifi the price comes out cheaper. Maybe if you go with the lite version but when you start adding in the ph probe and multiple temp sensors and float switches, you come out ahead, at least when i did the math back when i purchased. Another thing to not is that apex is ethernet only so you need another device to get wifi, consuming another outlet. Wifi was requirement for me as running a cable would not have worked in my current location.