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PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:19 pm
by bigHUN
I am running now a cat5 cable from the expansion module to my DIY LED fixture what I was remodeling a bit these days.
It didn't look best with all those wires in a mess, and I had a separate cable just to power the fans, now I toke that powercable out.
It look to me the PWM expansion module can't give enough amps because the fans won't move...
Wondering how that could be possible to pull the power for these 2 PC fans's from the PWM module (the powering the PWM is 12V 1A).

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:08 pm
by bigHUN
From six available channels first four using for dimming daylights, one for moonlight and one wire remaining in a cat5 cable I would like to use for powering the fans if I could get enough juice out from the expansion module...

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:58 am
by cosmith71
You won't be able to power the fans from the PWM module. It doesn't put out enough current. If the fans have a PWM input you can use it to control the speed, but you'd still need a separate power cable.

--Colin

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:05 am
by lnevo
The PWM signal is like 35mA I believe. Defintely not enough to power a 1A fan let alone 2.

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:23 pm
by bigHUN
Any port I can reuse either from main board or relay box to power max 1Amps the two small PC fans?
Not really liking the idea I need to pull a separate power cable + any 5-10 V power adapter back to the LED fixture....

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:28 pm
by rimai
I wouldn't run power wires through CAT5 myself. They are really thin.
But you could use one pair for your 12v to feed power to your fans

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:29 pm
by bigHUN
I have 2 spare-extra wires in the bundle but ...can I steel somewhere within the RA units that low voltage feed for fans? so don't need an extra power adapter...

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:20 pm
by bigHUN
dimming expansion module,
any chance to refresh, doesn't seem to me update as per the main board clock....
the LCD shows 10 or 5 or whatever low but the LED's are on most likely full bright
I power restart the system and then, then the LED's lit up to dim low

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:52 pm
by bigHUN
I forgot to say this earlier, until I was waiting for my RA+ replacement board I needed to run my LED's with MeanWell 60-40D, so I ordered a manual dimmer from rapidled. I built a manual overdrive for my LED fixture for next time something goes wrong again with the controller.
And, Yes, the MeanWell drivers can go dark with 0 Volt imput when I turn the potentiometer's down to zero,
Why then wont go dark with the expansion module? in my program I have timing and dimming starting up and down back to zero but I can measure voltage all time on the expansion module...?

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:10 am
by rimai
Looking at the code you posted in another thread, your PWMParabola never goes to zero:

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  ReefAngel.PWM.SetChannel( 4, PWMParabola(18,35,24,5,40,100,40) );
The last number, which is 40 in your case, is what the lights will stay at when not in the photo period.
Make sure to set that setting to 0.

Re: PWM dimming module ver2.1

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:33 am
by bigHUN
In this code yes it may have some numbers as you sad 40, but I have tried zeros.
In the morning the dimming can start from zero=or very low dim but at evening when the dimming goes down towards zero the display shows the lowest value but the LED's are still up on some higher level not on low dim....I power restarted the system and when the lights come ON will dim low. This means for some reason the communication between the bard and expansion module and LED drivers keeping some buffer current driving the LED's higher then the slope value.
Last weeks do to my RA+ board failure I had to built in couple manual ON/ON switches to overdrive manually, and when I turned the potentiometers down to zero I was able to completelly turn down the LED's to OFF.